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HeyNow!

Wow, we have an overabundance of forwards. Pelley, Vrana, Bergfors and Fedorov are all hoping to get into the lineup... yet we are quite full... I wonder what will happen...

MoonDragn

What will happen is that they will all compete for a spot and Pelley and probably Bergfors is gonna probably end up in Lowell. Looking at their videos, I think the best of the four are probably Federov and Vrana.

Either way, lets hope we get to see some new blood in the lineup.

mikeford

nuts to resigning pelley, resign jimmy dowd instead.

Mike from Elmwood Park

TG,

Did any of the younger prospects, particulary any of this June's draft picks stand out to you with skill or speed?

Thanks again for these updates.

Xander Crews

TG do you know who scored the 2 goals in the scrimmage? Id be curious to hear about that.

TG

To be honest, I didn't see either goal. I spent most of the scrimmage trying to figure out who the players were from their numbers (other than the obvious ones --Greene (6), Brookbank (8) and Pelley (10). I wasn't sure if either team had scored until someone said the score was 1-1 before the shootout.

Players I noticed: D Matt Corrente -- The player whose number (33) I memorized the fastest and it wasn't just because he's filled out physically. It's hard to describe, but he just has that look of an NHL player (I also noticed it in his two training camps with the Devils). D Harry Young-- mostly because he's huge (6-4, 205); C Tyler Burton -- the kid from Colgate is tiny (5-9), but quick; RW Nathan Perkovich-- I didn't notice him much during the scrimmage, but he scored a nice goal in the shootout, snapping the puck over Jeff Frazee's glove and under the crossbar; C Patrice Cormier -- He showed one nice burst, but later fired high off the glass during the shootout. D Brandon Burlon -- I noticed his size (6-1, 195). He actually looks bigger than those numbers. C Adam Henrique -- for his shootout winner and bleeding on the ice. RW Matt Halischuk -- he had a couple of nice bursts of speed, but he needs to put on some weight to play in the NHL. He's pretty thin.

It's difficult to make any real evaluations off of today, though, especially because I was mostly trying to identify who the players were. I think I'll have a better take on some of these guys by the end of the week. But, also it's hard to tell much when it's mostly prospects playing against mostly prospects.


TG

I failed to mention that Pelley scored a nice goal in the shootout, beating Frazee between the legs with a backhand after a nice move.

JJ

Gotta wonder why Fedorov is so confident he'll be playing in NJ. No way any promises about a guaranteed spot were made.

2600

that's probably just part of Fedor's personality.

Brodie30

I believe Pelley is earmarked as Madden's heir apparent and could prove a valuable asset as a checker. Let's not be so quick to trade prospects. We'll see on Federov. I think the team is really hoping that Bergfors makes the big club long term. Since he is young they would probably allow him another year in Lowell before losing patience (see: Suglobov) It sounds like Corrente keeps giving the team a reason to stay up at a very young age. Not bad for a guy the CSS had as a mid third rounder.

MoonDragn

CSS had Corrente as a mid third rounder? Then why did we pick him in the first round?

Jill

I'm so excited for Corrente. Whenever I've seen him play in any pre-season games, even the year of his draft, he was so impressive. He's got some Scott Stevens genes in him I think, I don't see how he can't make the lineup out of training camp this year.

mikeK

MoonDragn- Most of the time I find we have an excellent scouting system. I doubt Lou even reads the publications about the prospects.

Scott731


Just to add to the pile of people who have thought Corrente looked very good during his playing time in the last 2 training camps.

Xander Crews

MikeK i think the point MoonDragn was making is if no one expects him to go untill the 3rd round why not take someone else with our #1 pick then get him in the second round?

Much like our wasted pick on Adrian Foster. We picked him first round and he wasnt even ranked. So why waste our first rounder when we could have gotten someone good and he would have still been there in the 5th round since no one even knew who he was.

Brodie30

Because Central Scouting can't have the best projection on every single prospect. Central Scouting and ISS sometimes disagree on a particular prospect with as many as 80 draft positions. Besides that it's hard to grade the "rest of the pack" against each other especially when they are even through growing. Independant scouting bureaus grade the field. Team scouts have a frame of reference to what the team will need five and ten years down the line. Corrente was as home with his agent and family because he wasn't projected in the first round (the Devils traded down because they knew they liked him and knew he would be there).

Falcone

Pelley will be around for a little while. Maddog and Pando are getting older. Don't heal as fast. He'll be there to jump in if necessary. Needs to find a better scoring touch though.

Trades need and will happen soon. If we can bring some young guys up? And trade a vet or two, so there's room...as long as it makes us better I'm all for it.

Scott731

@ Xander, Foster was on all the teams radar screens, going into that season he had been ranked ahead of Danny Heatley, his injury gave everyone concern and he was never able to get over them. The Devils did the same thing when they drafted Sykora and they'll probably do the same thing again. I believe you're thinking of Kadeykin(sp?) as the unranked player.

As for Corrente, obviously the Devils didn't feel like they could get him with their next pick or they would have traded down like they did this season to pick up Tenedby. My impression is the Devils have players sorted out into tiers of ability in some fashion and then if one guy falls too far they'll trade up to get him and if there are multiple players in the same talent tier left then they'll trade down until there is just one left.

Brodie30

Adrian Foster was drafted in the same manner that Petr Sykora was. Both were once extremely well thought of (like pushing top ten) but had injuries that scared teams away. In Foster's case, the injuries continued. In Sykora's, he recovered and was an excellent NHL prospect turned player. It's a risk/reward situation. It's similar with player attitudes (see: Cherepanov, Vasnuyov, in some eyes Corrente)

Brodie30

Holy echo, Batman! Beat me to it.

Hoosier

Thanks for your great reporting TG.

As to why Corrente was drafted earlier, teams lists vary greatly both from one another and from the scouting services. It's possible the Devils had Corrente ranked in the top 25 and felt there was a strong possibility of him being taken by another team in the top 40 or so. So you don't risk him being off the board.

I hope Corrente pans out especially because the Devils traded down from I think the 25 spot, where Patrik Berglund was taken. Berglund looks like a very promising center.

Pat D

Thanks for the evaluation TG, how did Fraser do?

FOTC

TG, how did Frazee look out there?

Al

Thanks for ALL of your work TG...without you we would be lost. I guess Rich Chere is "too big" to care.

THANK YOU!!

modnarm

i'm pumped Corrente looks good from TG's standpoint. If this kid is solid, it will really help our D. I'd much rather have a solid Corrente than Mottau, Brookbank, Vishnevski.
I wonder what his weight is.

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