Devils won't put in claim for Schneider

Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello told me this morning that he won't be putting in a claim for Anaheim Ducks defenseman Mathieu Schneider before today's noon deadline. The Ducks placed Schneider on waivers Tuesday to try to clear his $5.625 million salary from their payroll and create cap room to sign Teemu Selanne, but Lamoriello said he wasn't interested in Schneider at that price.

"To me, it's a lot of money," he said.

When asked if he thought any other team would pick up Schneider, Lamoriello said, "I have no idea."

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Lamoriello also cleared up some things concerning defenseman Vitali Vishnevski, who is playing in Russia, but remains Devils' property.  The Devils retain Vishnevski's NHL rights and his average salary ($1.8 million) will continue to count against the team's cap until the regular season begins, though the team is not paying him. When teams trim their rosters before the regular season opens -- and players begin being paid their salaries -- then Vishnevski will come off the team's cap.

Lamoriello also mentioned that he might place Vishnevski on waivers again to give another team a chance to claim him again. He explained that Vishnevski will remain on the team's reserve list this season (if he's not claimed) and though the Devils aren't near the 50-player limit, "you never know what can happen."

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Lamoriello is optimistic that the ice at Prudential Center will be improved this season after the team had trouble with the computer regulating the temperature last season. "I hope so," he said.

He said workers from CIMCO were at the arena this summer to try to solve the problem and the ice has been laid down the main arena rink already, "but you never know until you start playing on it."

"It has a lot to do with the balance in the building with the temperature," he said.

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Lamoriello said nothing significant came out of Tuesday's Board of Governors meeting in Toronto. "It was just about the state of the game."

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The Devils had 17 veterans on the ice for this mornings informal skate. The first official practice of their NHL training camp is Saturday morning. Today is the second day of their minor league camp and the first group (the same as Tuesday's first group) took the ice shortly after 10 a.m.

The veterans on the ice today: Martin Brodeur, Kevin Weekes, Johnny Oduya, Sheldon Brookbank, Mike Mottau, Andy Greene, John Madden, David Clarkson, Jay Pandolfo, Travis Zajac, Zach Parise, Jamie Langenbrunner, Mike Rupp, Dainius Zubrus, Rod Pelley, Bobby Holik and Brian Gionta.

I'll have a report on the minor league camp at some point after the first session.

Comments

["Dr. D" David Schultz]

I don't think a 39 y/o defenseman at that price is worth it...save that space for the deadline lou.

[Triumph]

Any word whether the Devils are actually paying Vishnevski, TG? It was claimed in The Hockey News that they would be, which seems absurd.

[Jim]

TG,

There's a rumor on one of the message boards that the Devils will be bringing back 'Rock N Roll Part 2' as the goal song. Could you see if that is the case? I know it would make a number of people happy if it were true.

[Phil.happyhour]

If they brought back R & R part 2, I would be one of those happy people.

[Salvatore from Garfield]

Speaking of goal song, a few years ago, there was a vote for a new goal song. 3 songs won, and they [the devils management] said they would alternate the three, but only 1 played. Do you happen to know what was up with that?

[TG]

Schneider cleared waivers and was not claimed by any team. That means they'll either put him in the minors or buy him out.

[mikeP]

TG, if what I read was correct, even sending Schneider to the AHL won't help the Ducks with their cap situation, because he was signed after his 35th birthday, is this correct ? I love to see the arrogant Brian Burke squirm because of the poor cap-related decisions he's made (kind of similar to a certain NJ GM with Providence ties, huh?). You can't pin his poor record to Scott Niedermayer and Selanne coming back last year either, because I don't remember anyone holding a gun against his head to give Schneider, and especially Bertuzzi, the bad contracts that he did. He will have lost Bertuzzi by buyout, Bryzgalov to waivers, and now Schneider by trade, because of poor cap management.

The buyout period is over, so Schneider can no longer be bought out, especially since he will be a UFA next July. Looks like Burke may have to make a simliar deal to the Malakhov deal, where he has to trade a top pick (#1?) or prospect (Bobby Ryan) along with Schneider just to get rid of him.

How about we convince Colin White that it's really nice place in Anaheim to live, and that he could be paired with his ex-teammate Niedermayer, so that Colin could waive his NTC. White for Schneider and a pick ? Our current defense is NOT going to get us past the 1st round of the playoffs...

[Guy]

I would be happy changing back to RR pt 2. Maybe change the goal horn too, or make the current one run longer.

[TG]

Good points Mike P. Schneider will count against the cap for the Ducks even if they send him to the minors because he signed his deal when he was 38. (How could i forget to check his age?) It looks like they will probably have to trade someone (they were rumored to be talking to LA, which actually needs to add to its payroll) a high draft pick to take Schneider off their hands -- as the Devils did with Malakhov.

They've already tried to trade Schneider before putting him on waivers, so I think it was going to be for a player it would have happened already. Plus, Colin White (besides having a no-trade) still makes $3 million.

[TG]

Although there has been talk of putting Schneider on re-entry waivers, I really can't see the Ducks paying half of his salary and taking that cap hit. Plus, they're more than $3 million over the cap right now. Losing only half of Schneider's salary (about $2.8 million) would still leave them over the cap. They'd have to trim more payroll just to get under the cap and find even more space to sign Selanne.

[Scott731]

Tri, this article(blog?) says the Devils aren't paying VV. I think the Hockey News guy probably just got his wired crossed up in trying to understand the timing of VV coming off the cap.

"The Devils retain Vishnevski's NHL rights and his average salary ($1.8 million) will continue to count against the team's cap until the regular season begins, though the team is not paying him."

[TG]

That is what I was told: that the Devils are not paying Vishnevski.

[Devilswede]

MikeP, I don't think Schneider's salary will count against the cap if he's in the minors. Just like Mogilny's didn't when we sent him down back in 2006.

I'm not 100 % sure though, I could be wrong.

[Scott731]

I believe you can get the cap hit off the first year of a players contract, even when over 35, when placing them in the minors. All seasons after the first the salary would not be removed which is why the Devils had to convince the league that Mogilny's hip was bad enough he should be placed on Injury Reserve to remove him from the salary cap.

I don't have the relevant parts of the CBA on hand and that's just going off of memory for how the situation played out as I'm remembering so I could definitely be off.

[Just Some Guy]

We needed a Long Term Injury exception for Mogilny, otherwise his salary would have counted against the cap. Schneider's salary will count against the cap unless they can magically find something wrong with him. Paging Jeff Gilhooly.

[TG]

Yes, the idea of the rule was to prevent teams from adding years to contracts to lower the average value and the cap hit on an older player who might not play out the entire contract. So, the salary wouldn't count against the cap if the player was sent down in the first year (as the Devils did with Mogilny in the first year of his deal) or retired, etc., but it would count in every year after the first one -- if the player signed it after his 35th birthday. That's why the Devils had to say Mogilny had a long-term injury to get out of the cap hit for the second year of his contract.

That's also why most teams usually want to give a player 35 or older only a one-year deal.

[SawOfj]

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