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December 02, 2008

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RNCDevil

Ah, too bad for the rookies. 2009 will be a nightmare/dream logjam of prospects - Tedenby, Vasyunov, Bergfors, Halischuk, Palmieri, Vrana, Cormier, Hoeffel...I'm sure I'm missing some.

FYI, Mark Fraser is a -12 for Lowell..oof.

Ernie

You are a poor coach Bert, big bird needs to take over again.

Curt

Its good to see this team pulling it back together with all the injuries this season. As far as I am concerned the Devs are truly a team of interchangeable parts and have have held it together pretty well being the circumstances. It is amazing hearing critics of the Devils talking about the cupboards being bare due to inability to draft or making that blockbuster deal over the last several years. In reality looking at this team(young and old)I cannot remember it being so deep. This being said, Question for you TG. With Holik, Madden and Rolston returning and Greene on the Horizon where do you think all these chess pieces are going to fit in? I know it is a broad question but I honestly do not remember when this team has been so deep. While I am picking your brain, does Vrana have to clear waivers if he is permanently assigned to Lowell or does he have to stay on the Devils Roster? Thanks in advance and keep up the good work. It is much appreciated.

Jim

I don't understand why players like Vrana are being sent down in favor of the tallacksons, makes no sense to me. You can say vrana hasnt produced but he has hardly played.

Jeff

Great News that Holik is practicing. Hopefully him and Rollie will infuse some energy into the line up

Tom Gulitti

Don't read it as a Vrana vs. Tallackson thing. Tallackson already has been down on a conditioning stint this season and can't go back down that way again (At least not yet).

Vrana can go down for conditioning, but, as a I posted above, can only stay there for two weeks. I think it makes sense to send him down for some games if he's not going to play here (which appears to be the case). Also, it might help Lowell.

Tom Gulitti

To be officially assigned to Lowell, Vrana would have to clear waivers. That's why this is a conditioning assignment.

MoonDragn

I see a trend in Sutter's choices. You have to realize that the bigger the player, the better in Sutter's book. Vrana is probably too small for his liking. Tallackson is bigger. I mean that would explain why Brookbank is playing...

Jim

ok TG thanks for the clarification, I just hope they give him another shot to play. Salmela wasnt given too much either but this second run better have put him on the map. I just think a infusion of youth into the team would do it wonders if we are to make a push this year.

Jason

Is this the same kind of "conditioning" assignment that was given to Mogilny...Marshall...Rasmussen...Matvichuk

Craigwell

It definitely seems the Devils are in a good position to trade for veteran help on D if they feel the need, considering all the prospects they have, some of whom can't return to Lowell without clearing waivers.

A Hard decision for a team doing well that doesn't want to disrupt chemistry.

Out of Greene, Oduya and Salmela, who would the Devils want to part with?? No room for all three with a healthy Martin, and none would seem to benefit with time in Lowell.

JJ

All this depth only means that once the team is has played 20-25 games as a close to completely healthy unit that Lou has options to make a deal once the staff can evaluate where we are at and what we really need. Impossible to do right now (not that deals are being mad anyway). At that point we'll be around a month from the deadline and we'll also know where Marty is at and Lou can deal from a position of strength to get max value in return for whatever assets he moves.

Tom Gulitti

No, those other guys cleared waivers, were officially sent down and were no longer on team's NHL roster. "Conditioning assignment" is an official NHL term. It's not a Devils' term.

Mike redante

healthy lines....
Parise, Zajac, Rolston
(another goal scorer on that line take pressure off parise)

Gionta, Zubrus, Elias
(playing well elias and rolston both more effective as wingers)

Pando, Madden, Langdenbrunner

Rupp, Holik, Clarkson
( Id even contimplate putting Holik on third line instead of Pando...More offense, and pandos playing horrible this yr)

POWERPLAY

Parise, Elias, Gionta
Rolston and Samella on the points ( keep them on for 1:30 of pp..sutter needs to stop taking 1st unit off adter 45 seconds)


Zajac, Zubrus, Holik

Martin, Langdenbrunner

Penalty Kill------Pandos a wasteeeee (we could be scoring more shorties pando and madden arent really that good on Pk just look at recent games and stats...Pks been the best this season with out madden and pando

Madden and GIo, or Zajac

Elias and Rolston or parise

Jeff

I'm guessing of the 3 mentioned Greene will be most likely to go.

RNCDevil

On Vrana and others...I would love to see the rookies, but they need to make an impact. Think about what Parise or Dubinsky did with limited minutes. The rookies need to be that good to displace strong players on a strong team. Do I have issues with Gionta, Langs, White? Yeah, sometimes, but they are still performing at a level above Vrana, Tallackson, and Bergfors, in my opinion.

roge

Of course they are ... it's not their first months in the NHL.

David B.

TG, is it fair to assume that the team will look like this in several weeks when everyone is healthy to avoid losing people to the waiver wire:

Elias-Zubrus-Gionta
Parise-Zajac-Rolston
Pandolfo-Madden-Langenbrunner
Rupp-Holik-Clarkson

Ex. Vrana, Tallackson

Salvador-Martin
White-Oduya
Greene-Mottau

Ex. Brookbank

Sent Down: Leblond, Salmela

To my knowledge I believe that Leblond and Salmela are not required to pass through waivers to be sent down to Lowell but I could be wrong. If you could please clarify this for me. Thank you, you do a great job!

mikeP

unless he falls apart, I think Salmela is here for good, I don't see him going back to Lowell. I would think that either Brookbank or Tallackson will be waived or traded, so we'd be carrying either 7 or 8 d-men

Triumph

with brookbank playing at forward and defense, i think he's a solid 23rd man to have on a roster. he can't do either well but at least there's some versatility there.

vrana has demonstrated that he just cannot be used in road games as a center - it's too dangerous. i'm hoping new jersey moves him to wing but there really is no room at left wing on this team, either now or in the near future.

modnarm

IMO MOTTAU and prospect/a few picks should be the only players up for a trade. I agree with the first comment that in 09 we're gonna have a lot of skilled young forwards trying to make it in. We have more mediocrity at D than O so trade some of the O players for a top dman.

What kind of defenseman is Bouwmeester? any player any1 can relate him to?

Sarah

I'd be shocked if Salmela got the nod over Greene once he gets healthy. As much as Anssi has finally started playing well, Andy was one of our best defenseman for the 4 games he got to play before he broke his hand -- and he was putting points on the board. No way Sutter doesn't at least rotate him in for a few games to see if he continues to play as well as he was before the injury.

Jeff

Yes Greene had a good 4 game stint but we are also talking tradability and salary and I thing Greene is much more attractive to other teams than Salmela right now and Salmela has the more attractive salary. The way Salmela has been progressing he is just as good as Greene and most likely will become a better d-man in the long run. I see a lot of the same attributes in Salmela that rafalski brought ot the table once he adjusted to the NHL.

Pearl Jammed

Modern... right now i would compare him to Bryce Salvadore but younger

Al

Hey TG, I thought Vrana could not be sent down to Lowell unless he passed trhough waivers? What exactly is the deal with being sent down and his contract status? Thanks!

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