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September 08, 2009

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Tom

TG, is any of camp open to the public? I'm sure I know the answer......No
We'll get one lame scrimmage.

Mhowitzer

great job TG...thanks for the update...

sounds like any move (Marleau) is going to wait till after camp to see what we look like?

Rusty

Shanahan as more than a fourth line player? On the powerplay he'll be sure to do his thing, but at his age will he be able to contribute the same with more icetime?

BishopQ

Didn't Elias shift to Center for a half season a few years ago? If recall correctly it limited his production significantly, thus prompting the switch back.

Mhowitzer

if shanny sits when he needs to i can see him playing third line for a good majority of the games...is he going to play 82 games on the third line, hell no...he wont make 82 on the fourth line, but i think if he sits regularly he can easily log some third line time

NJromano

training camp preview

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2009/09/nj_devils_training_camp_previe.html

POSSIBLE EARLY LINES

POSSIBLE EARLY DEFENSE PAIRS

NJromano

that link i just posted is by Rich Chere.. Im kinda questioning his hockey sense.... .. his predicted lines have Clarkson on the 2nd line with elias/rolston.
on the 3rd line he has pando an pelley with zubs, which personally i think would be an absolutly horrible idea.. no where in his line prediction is there any word of Bergfors... but instead he has walters in the line up..

Number6

Right... and on a team that's looking for centers, why play Zubrus on wing with Pelley? If he's not 2nd line center, he's definitely going to be 3rd line center. Pelley would be better off starting on the 4th line, or on wing.

Pat

of course anything can happen but it sounds like...

ZZPops
Rolston - Elias - Bergfors
Shanny - Zubrus - Clarkson
Pando/PL3 - Pelley - Pikka

ThePolice

Patrik Elias
not
Patrick Elias

Damian

Yes, everyone should know there is no "C" in Patrik lol

TG

Sorry. Typo. That's what happens when you write in your car and can't see the screen that well because of the sun.

TG

By the way, although Patrik's numbers weren't great that year (no one's were.), he played very well at center -- other than trouble on draws.

Remember, the Devils had basically no second line that year with Zajac having a terrible year. Elias played really well, but few give him credit for it.

pando20rules

TG,

Few people ever give Elias the respect he deserves. I don't know why that is, but its always been that way. He is a top talent who is also clutch and definitely deserves more accolades. When his time is fully up in a few years, only then will people then realize what they are now missing. Its sad really, but few recognize Elias as the bonafide superstar he is.

TG

Elias was decent at center. Is he a better left wing? Probably. It's difficult to argue against that.

Will the Devils be better off if he stays at left wing and they get someone else to center the second line? It depends on who that center is.

At this point, he's probably their best option. But camp hasn't even started yet.

MikeR

I'm not at all surprised that Lemaire is saying he'll give a look to Elias at center. Outside of trading for a 2nd line center, he's the only player currently on the roster that makes sense at the position. He can handle the puck, passes well, and has the endurance and skating ability to play center. He's pretty good defensively as well. I'm sure that he will be a good citizen, but I thought I saw some remarks in the past that he wasn't thrilled about playing center. Maybe it's a short-term fix.

TG

Elias admitted that he initially wasn't thrilled when Sutter moved him to center. That lasted like one period. (I think he scored in his first game at center, but don't remember for sure. I'd have to look it up). Anyway, Elias actually liked it and said so last season on more than one occasion when I asked him about it.

In fact, a few times last season when Sutter put Rolston with Elias and Gionta, Sutter kind of left it up to Rolston and Elias and Elias chose to play center and Rolston played left wing. Later in the season, however, Sutter didn't give them the choice and Rolston played center. That lasted only a few games, though.

Alz

Glad to hear he's taking the team in new and exciting directions.

Or at least back to 2006.

AGIV

What, Brodeur missed an opportunity to golf?

TG

I believe he had other obligations. Also, his wife is expecting, so that might take up some of his time.

TG

I just finished updating this post with all of the quotes from Lemaire today and the list of players participating in the golf outing. Lemaire talked about some of the things the team can improve on and things they did well last year and he doesn't want to change.

MikeR

TG

Given what you are saying (Elias changing his initial opinion and liking center), it certainly makes the most sense to try him there at camp and during the pre-season.

NJromano

http://twitter.com/nhldevils

check out all the new pics of the devils golf outing... my last post didnt show up so heres a link to view the pics

NJromano

the clarkson an zajak pic are pretty funny looking

TG

Elias thought that he had the puck more as a the center and liked that. (I'm paraphrasing).

Elias has always been a very good playmaker, even at left wing. He was probably the best playmaker on that A Line, though Arnott was the center.

That said, if he does play center, he needs to be better on draws, especially with Madden no longer on the team.

Zajac had a pretty good season on faceoffs last season, but I don't know if he would start taking all of the key draws with Madden gone. It will probably be more of a committee thing and you can't take Elias off the ice for draws late in the game. I guess Elias could line up at wing for the faceoff and then move to center as play continues.

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