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Triumph

TG - do you know why Urbom is not eligible for the AHL? Niclas Bergfors played in the AHL as an 18 year old in 2005-06 after coming over from Sweden.

TG

Bergfors was not affiliated with any junior team. The Brandon Wheat Kings hold Urbom's rights, so he has to go to junior if he's not in the NHL.

Devilswede

Urbom and Cormier are in the same situation, junior teams have their rights. But they can still play in 9 NHL regular season games without losing a year of their NHL contracts. If they play in 10 (or more) NHL games they can still be sent back to their junior team but the Devils would lose one year of their respective NHL contract.

TheUglyTruth

Bergfors was affiliated with The St. John's Fog Devils of the QMJHL. They drafted him in the CHL Import Draft and he practiced and played a few exhibition games with them.

Triumph

TG - that's not true by my recollection, I remember Bergfors being drafted by the St. John's Fog Devils of the QMJHL.

Sean

what players do you think are up for trades?

modnarm

very interesting how Lemaire seems to like that 'kid line' of Zharkov-Cormier-Clarkson. I just don't see how everyone will fit.

ZZpops
Rolly, Zubrus, Bergfors (?)
Pando-Pelley-Shanahan
Zharkov-Cormier-Clarkson?

Maybe Pikka isn't all the hes cracked up to be? Maybe Bergfors doesn't impress, the 'kids line' clicks, and upon Elias' return Lemaire runs Elias-Zubrus-Rolston?

I have no problem with
Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Elias-Zubrus-Rolston
Pandolfo-Pelley-Shanahan
Zharkov-Cormier-Clarkson

Fairly good depth and who knows, maybe the kid line will end up being the 3rd line! I always thought more highly of Zharkov than Bergfors.. simply based on write-ups and stats and draft year/positions. Thats not to say i don't want Bergfors to succeed..

But you would Have to Think.. that by now if he was doing well that we'd read something exciting about him. THat Lemaire would say something positive and confident about him.. he just seems to be just another one of the guys, and Cormier and Zharkov are the ones sticking out. Hey, 2 IS BETTER THAN ONE!

slivedmb

every line has someone i cant wait to see play. obviously i want to see how zajac looks to see if last year was a fluke or has he still got it. his two way play improved so much last year. bergfors im hoping does something to catch my eye. i want to see what Pikkairainen brings to the table...im hoping for another player close to what holik brought us when he was young. scored timly goals but completly took players of the opposing team off there game. my favorite line to watch will be the comrier line. im really excited about this kid. i think he has size and skill already. if he was smaller i would say maybe to early, but he can handle himself. cant wait to watch this game tomorrow! oh and i almost forgot. corey murphy will prove why he should play for the big boys tomorrow...i would bet on it.

TG

Sorry. I don't remember that. I'll try to get a clarification on it. Maybe I'm wrong.

J-L

Is Doc going to call the play-by-play on Wednesday? Since the game is on both MSG and MSG+, I assume the devils announcers will be broadcast on MSG+..Correct?

MikeR

Modnarm

Ain't no way Clarkson going to be put on the fourth line.

TG

I saw Steve Cangiolisi here earlier. I don't know if that means he's doing the game or what.

I know Chico is supposed to be here, though.

modnarm

if hes better paired with them, making himself AND them better i don't see why not. Thats the whole point of line chemistry. Like i said, if they really impress and get solid over time they may be our 3rd line.

its just speculation.

TG

I just spoke with Devils GM Lou Lamoriello said that because Urbom is signed he is elibigle to play in the AHL this season. Lamoriello said right now, "He's scheduled to go to junior" and "no decision as been made" on whether he might go to Lowell instead.

I corrected the story above. Sorry I got it wrong originally.

New Guy

with Shanny on a line with Zach and Zajac shouldn't we call it ZZGrandpops?

TG

Apparently the rules are different for European imports. Patrice Cormier (as one example) would have to go back to junior if he doesn't play in the NHL this season.

Triumph

TG - no problem, the rules are so confusing; personally i hope urbom goes to the whl anyway and would prefer if there was no choice.

MoonDragn

Hi TG,

Do you know why Mottau is paired with Oduya and why Greene was taken out? Do you think Lemaire just wants to see how those combos work out?

What do you think Lemaire's impression of Greene is?

TG

I wouldn't say Bergfors has "stood out" so far, but I wouldn't read anything into no quotes coming from Lemaire about him.

No one has actually asked about Bergfors yet. What can you ask at this point? These are practices and he's been through this numerous times. Similarly, no one has asked about Pelley either.

Those guys will be topics for the preseason games.

These other players -- Cormier, Urbom, Zharkov -- are really getting their first real looks and are in either their first or second camp -- though Zharkov got in one NHL preseason game last year.

The quotes on young players you have seen from Lemaire have been the result of questions. Even then, Lemaire seems apprehensive to say anything specific about any of the young players.

He's been asked numerous times about Cormier and hasn't said much other than "he was fine."

Neil S

I think everyone is reading way too much into things. Modnarm, not to call you out, but umm, I'm gonna call you out lol. I hate to say it, but a lot of these guys like Zharkov and Cormier are most likely not going to be with the Devils to start the season. That's why everyone fits. Travis Zajac said Pikkarainen moves the puck well and Lou said he was signed to play in NJ. Why would they put Clarkson on the 4th line after saying he's going to get more minutes and more responsibility this year? Why would they play Zharkov on the 4th line with Cormier and Clarkson? What purpose does that serve him if he's a goal scorer, and for that matter what does it serve Cormier when he could go back to junior and get more time to develop in the Q?

I know everyone is looking for the brilliant whiz kid savior that will make the lack of off-season moves seem genius, but that's just not likely to happen yet. Be patient, let's see what happens with Elias, let's take a look at some of the preseason games and see how these guys do. Even if they tear it up in the preseason, remember the lineup they're playing against isn't full of NHLers either. The Devils very likely have a bright future with a lot of these younger players, but that future is probably still a little ways a way for some of these guys.

Neil S

Oh and TG, the Brandon Wheat Kings are in the WHL, not OHL.

MoonDragn

I dunno, I don't think Modnarm is wrong. I think both Zharkov and Cormier are getting at least called up during the season if there are injuries if they don't make the team.

In my opinion they are the ones closest to being ready for the NHL.

Falcone

So Cormier might make this team???

TG

You know, I thought Urbom said OHL, so that's what I wrote. Obviously, Brandon is in the WHL. Bad mistake by me. Sometimes I'm trying to churn out all of this stuff as quickly as possible and make dumb ones. Other times it's just brain cramps.

Futureman

I saw alot of WJC last year and I thought Cormier was sick.

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