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Gomez and Drury get a B is a joke. Drury has struggled in all areas on the ice(except the pk) Gomez has been a turnover machine who has had no chemistry with really any of his linemates. Zherdev has been as advertised highly skilled but maddeningly inconsistant, turnover prone and he disappears alot and only competes for a handful of shifts a game. Girardi got off to a great start with 15 points in 23-24 games but his offense has dried up. He is caught out of position as much as any dman in the league. He is also quite turnover prone. He is nowhere near the defensive stalwarth he was in 06-07. Prucha's grade is a joke too. He has played well every game he's played in but his coach wasn't willing to give him a fair shake. Now that he is look how well he's playing. Dubi is suffering from the mother of all sophmore slumps (not unlike the ones Zajac had last year and Carter and Richards had two years ago) Renney deserves some criticsm for not making vets accountable. I also find it laughable when he sends the 4th line out for offensive zone draws. Betts an d Sjostrom are good pkers but they add nothing 5 on 5. Betts has embarrasing offensive numbers even for a 4th liner(he's not even a good faceoff man) I wish Dominic Moore was here over Betts. Sjostrom has great speed but so what? He might have the worst hands on a pretty bad offensive team. Staal, Lundvist and Cally have easily been the best players.

Oh yeah I'd give Sather an F for the moves he's made the last two Julys.

Agree on the grade for Dawes he stink the first two months but has the been really good the last month.

Sorry Andrew but the Rangers are not a first place team, they are in second place thanks to the Flyers having a game in hand.

We can play numbers games all we want but that if not for the shootout the Rangers would not be at 51 points.

Take away the Gary Bettman Shootout point and the Rangers only have 41 points, they do not have 24 wins they have only 14.

That Ranger "article" forgets that prior to 2005-06 there was no shootout so comparing the current team record to years past is not only misleading but also insulting to the Ranger fans.

To give Tom Renney a "B" is also mind boggling where is his accountability?

Who gets the blame for a team that plays so inconsistent, for giving up 12 short handed goals, for making promises about changes and then doing nothing?

The Rangers made a big thing about this being Tom Renney's team now that Jagr and Avery were gone so why aren't things better?

At best Renney deserves a "C-" for the way Prucha has been used, for the constant line changes, for the failure on the the power play as well as the already mentioned shorthanded goals.

Take those 10 shootout wins into account when realizing that this record is beyond fragile.

Come on now... Redden a "C-" & Renney a "B" WTF? And then give Sather a "C-" he deserves an "F" just for Signing Redden and Keeping Renny.

These are the most RETARDED grades I have EVER seen. Have you ever even watched a game?

You are not critical enough of the Rangers. They have been declining by quite a bit lately. Also, Glen Sather's draft was not good. And Chris Drury's must be one of the worst first or second line centers in the N.H.L. Henrik Lundqvist should have the C. Chris Drury can take an A on his shirt. You should have given more Fs. This is the case when you average up all the grades. Does this look like a B team to you? It looks like a C team to me. I am glad I wasn't the only one that recognized the grading deficiency.

andrew - see what you started. unlike others i think you were all in all fair in your assessment. as far as future capt i see staal not dubi. of course we're talking 4 or so yrs away.

i would lower betts, dubi, redden, renney and sather but not by much for all except betts where i'd put a b-.

have to say jess makes some fair points about the role of the shootout in getting us to the points and wins levels we are at. makes comparisons to previous versions tougher and misleading.

league should change to make every game 3 pts with win in reg 3 pts, win in ot or shootout 2, loss in ot or shootout 1. would see a lot of going for it in last 10 minuters of regulation. i think they like to keep teams bunched which the present system allows.

Keep in mind people that these are FIRST HALF grades. Not "last 3 week grades". No difference in grading them for the first 3 weeks and the last 3 weeks.

Shootout points are there for the entire league. Doesn't matter how you get your seeding in the playoffs. Just get there, then it starts all over again.

The grades seem objective unlike other bloggers/writers who are too critical or drink the local cool aid of the team they cover.

I also think the rangers are no better then 2nd round and out come playoff time.

I expect the teem to come together and player better down the stretch with Rozy's hip getting better and Redden regaining some confidence. The young guys are starting to show their potential.

Montreal will be a good test to see if what they are made of. If you can't get motivated for a team that has embarrassed you recently then who can you get motivated for?

enough about what the Rangers record would be WITHOUT a shootout ... there fact is that there IS a shootout ... ALL 30 teams have the shootout ...

So please, enough already ... ifs don't matter here because the fact is that you cannot take away those wins ...

I am not happy with this team but I won't belittle their record as "If it wasn't for a shootout then it would be ..." because guess what they aren't the only ones who have A LOT of wins due to the shootout ... please see NJ and others as well who have great SO records

I can understand not going overboard with the "historic start" stuff. But for how many seasons are we going to say "Well if there was no shootout, our record would be..."

There IS a shootout. It COUNTS in the standings. I feel like I have been hearing this all over the place. No one is going to recalculate the standings back to the pre-lockout days before the Playoffs start.

What would their record be if the zones went back to their origional dimensions?

What would their record be if we took away all their goals that resulted from a two-line pass?

What would their record be if hooking/holding/interference were allowed again?


You'd have to include all of those calculations as well. Or do we just want to use the stat that would make our record look worse? It's ridiculous...

HA! I agree with Matty. I clicked submit and forgot to enter in the code until I came back to this page....

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HA! I agree with Matty. I clicked submit and forgot to enter in the code until I came back to this page....

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matty true - but when trying to compare records vs 10 yrs ago when there was no shootout and teams actually tied games it is fair to mention the shootout effect. leaguewide a true .500 in this day and age is approx 92 pts over a 82 game season.

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