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nyr351

Andrew,

Gilroy had the SO goal, not Lisin...but I really love Lisin's play so far.

CP (Chris)

Exactly right about harnessing his talent. Imagine Prospal and Lisin in 4-on-4 play...they might get on the rush, but have the wheels to backcheck.

Has Avery worked at all in training camp at center? Just curious as I wish there was a way Lisin could play on the top three lines and possibly moving Anisimov to the 4th line.

bob

Huh? Lisin was stopped, it was Gilroy who scored.

Lisin was very good. And Prospal is the type of player that can have chemistry with almost anyone, and so is Avery.

Both Avery and Prospal are very good playmakers.

Prospal's play is not Dubinsky's biggest problem, that would be Sather. And besides Drury is a brutal center and should be a winger or even better bought out. Even Tortorella can't make this guy throw a good hit on regular basis.

Andrew Gross

Yeah, yeah, I know it was Gilroy and I wrote it was Lisin. End of a long night. Actually pulled off to the side of the road to correct in the blog. But thanks for looking out for me.
AG

stuart A

this team needs dubi.. they are not going to exactly be a scoring juggernaut.. get dubi in camp already, enough.

what is his advisor doing???

Patrick

They don't need Dubi, he is overrated anyway and does not deserve the money he is asking for. If Dubi comes back then Grachev does not make the team, which would be a shame because Grachev is a better player. Trade Dubi for picks or prospects while his stock is still high. He doesn't have much hockey sense at all so he won't develope into a much better player than he is now. Let's not wait unitl he loses all of his trade value like with did with Prucha.

bob

Grachev does not make the team either way because he needs a little seasoning in AHL.

Kotalik-Prospal-Gaborik
Avery-Drury-Callahan
Higgins-Anisimov-Lisin
Byers-Boyle-Brashear
Voros
Ambuhl or Owens or Rissmiller

when there will be an injury or several, Grachev will get called up.

Mike

Im starting to think they dont need Dubi either...

Mike

I thik Grachev should have a reasonable shot here. I think he looks great. But, the one who obviously looks the best is Gilroy. Hopefully his talent will ignite Staal's and that could be a lethal pairing. By the way - the A's on some players sweaters last night... Rosival... really? Thats just pre- season, right?

bob

Well you have to remember that Gilroy is all offense and very little defense or hitting.

They need Dubi, they don't need Drury, Kotalik and Rozsival.

The team would be better if they were bought out and replaced by Grachev, Dubinsky, and Potter/Sauer

CP (Chris)

Grachev has a very reasonable shot. If he can make an immediate impact on this team, Anisimov and the 4th line better worry about their spot on the opening day roster, with the exception of Brashear.

Bob, Kotalik will probably play second line as he is a natural RW. I agree with Mike, though, I like these lines with Dubi, even though, I really like Dubi, outside of his antics.

Brett

You said Lisin was inconsistent last year with 13 goals? If he would have played a whole season he was on pace to score 26 goals, which would've put him as one of the Rangers top goal scorers last season. This kid is gonna be good.

Mike

Yea, he definitely has the offensive ability, thats pretty clear. But, I wouldnt quite say there is no defensive ability. He seems to be able to chip the puck away, and skate up the ice with it. He's bigger then Del Zotto... Last night there was a play where he chipped it off the boards and away from a NJ forward, and took it right up the ice, all alone. That was a very promising transitional sign. This (I wont say kid since he is 25) guy is good!

I would also say - they do need Kotalik. I think he will work out well with us this yr. Definitely a 20goal scorer, if not more. Again, I love Dubi, but right now he is all alone on his island, and cant even get his own equipment. He and his agent are screwing themselves. Sorry Bob... But there are plenty of other centers we can use. Even if there werent, we can move wingers (Prospal) to the center, to bring up other wingers. Plenty of lfexibilty and depth in this organization for this team to be crippled by the lack of 'Bubi'. Sorry...

Charles

They didn't trade Lauri K. for Lisin to just put Lisin on a 4th line or in the AHL. Lisin has to play on the top 3 lines and in an offensive capacity.

bob

I agree Dubinsky needs to lower his demands and sign ASAP. I disagree that we really need Drury or Katalik even if they score 25 goals. Others can do that too.

I never said this organization would be crippled by Dubinsky, but that doesn't mean you should insult a good player with a pathetic offer. Although I am not sure what Sather is offering, but it is probably pathetic.

Rogan

Chris is right; Avery can play center -- I'm surprised Torts hasn't played with that.

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