The Three Way

The Nets are involved in discussions on a three-way trade with the Dallas Mavericks and Portland Trail Blazers, as we first reported on the print side today.

The deal, which would send Jason Kidd to Dallas, includes at least 12 players, draft picks and some cash, and yes, it could happen.

League sources tell us that, the Nets would get point guard Jarrett Jack and forwards Travis Outlaw and Channing Frye, a No. 1 pick and cash from Portland and forward Devean George, center DeSagana Diop, swingman Jerry Stackhouse, a No. 1 cash from the Mavericks.

In the proposed trade, Malik Allen and Darrell Armstrong also would go from the Nets to Dallas, the sources said.

The Nets likely would buy out Stackhouse with some of the money they’re getting back, but they still would need to make another move before doing this deal. They essentially are trading three-for-six and with 13 players on the roster before the deal, they would have one too many after.

So the Nets would have to move someone else for a pick or trade exception or waive someone in order to have roster room to make this deal work. Unless, some names will be added or subtracted, but now you see why these deals are so hard to pull off.

The way I’m hearing it is Devin Harris is involved, but he would be going to Portland. The Blazers also would be getting players from the Mavericks. There is more involved in this proposal.

Why wouldn't the Nets getting Harris? My first thought exactly.

Maybe the Blazers insisted they get him or they want no part of the deal or it’s that Harris, who signed a five-year, $43 million extension last summer, is too rich for the Nets’ blood. Another factor could be the poison pill provision regarding Harris.

He makes $3.9 mill this season, but his trade value is $7.8 million because he signed that extension that starts next year so you have to take the average of the life of the contract.

That said, the Nets are trying to get younger, but also have some cap flexibility and draft picks to make other moves now, this summer and beyond.

This isn’t imminent, from what we understand, but it's in discussion. The Nets have to clear roster room and also surely are getting inundated with phone calls with other offers that they have to sift through in case something comes up that is better.

The Nets continue to say they’re in no rush to do something. They have three weeks and one day until the trade deadline and Kidd just publicly requested a trade two days ago, even though the Nets have been listening to offers for him and everyone else for some time.

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Sean Williams is headed for New Orleans. The athletic forward has been chosen to play in the 2008 T-Mobile Rookie Challenge and Youth Jam during All-Star Weekend.

Comments

[Harris]

We'd have to get Harris, I can't see how Thorn would pull the trigger on that without him. There is nothing that puts this deal over the top, and only one no.1 pick offered.

[Chet Lemp]

Are you kidding? Portland will NEVER make this trade. Sending out Jack, Outlaw, Frye, a pick, AND cash for Harris?! Pritchard is the savviest GM in the league right now and this is a joke. Keep dreaming. Kidd isn't even worth two of those players straight up.

[King John da FiF]

Looks like a good trade. Can't wait to see sean williams in the rookie game. The east should win the all star game.

[Adam.y]

Heck no I want either Howard or Harris from Dallas

[Joe]

What a joke of a trade for Portland. Why would Dallas want to give up Harris (who is injured right now by the way)?

But most importantly, this is a joke of a trade for the Nets. Stackhouse has a huge 3 year deal and is already old and not producing. The rest of the players in this proposed deal are average or below average.

Very underwhelming.

[Steve]

HELLLLL NO. I want no part of Stackhouse or anyone else in this deal.

What is this trade, Rod? A trade to make the little crybaby Kidd happy? This trade sucks for the Nets. We can't even get a STARTER out of the deal? Just a million bench players barely playing on their current teams? Revolting!!!

[Hector]

If any of you read the entire article, it said Stackhouse would be bought out, Outlaw Jack and Frye play significant minutes for the Blazers, The Nets get Younger and they get an extra pick and cap relief down the line , I like the deal

[Adam]

Not only do we not get the starter we would want (he would go to Portland?), but we get NO cap relief from this deal, unless Ratner eats Stackhouse's 3 year deal, which he is not going to do.

Terrible trade.

[sam]

There's no cap relief at all from this until 2010. Kidd's deal expires in 2009. I don't see the mentality in doing this, especially if we can't even get Harris, or any legit starter, in return.

Ratner wouldn't give his best player a $13 million extension. I don't see him buying out Stack's $21 million dollar contract.

This deal screws Portland over (especially because Harris is injured), forces Dallas to part with their future (that's currently a top team in the West), and piles on salaries onto the Nets. We could do worse, but this sounds like a "Please Kidd" kind of deal. We would never make this trade if he hadn't asked out. Why are we looking out for Kidd, and not th Nets?

[Mitch]

From Blazer Country...I can now fully understand how the Nets have become irrelevant. It's bad enough that Thorn is the second worst GM with a job right now, but your fans top it off by being just as inept. I feel for you, I truly do. I agree with Joe and Hector on this one, Kidd isn't going anywhere if Thorn thinks he's getting a 6 for 3. Man, find something better to do with your time than writing on Thorn's pipe dreams. KP would be hard pressed to trade Outlaw for Kidd straight up...let alone giving up half a roster for Harris. Good luck in the lottery New Jersey....

[Joe]

This trade isn't terrible for the Nets. Its probably the best or close to the best they will get for Kidd while trying to get him to a contender. Remember that Kidd has put the Nets in a difficult spot. I think we would be hard pressed to get 75 cents on the dollar value for Kidd.

Harris is a nice player but lets not make him into a great PG. I would be ok with Jack if we got Outlaw and Frye. I think Outlaw in particular is gonna be a real good player. I just don't see why Portland would do this though. Makes little sense for them.

[michael watts]

i like jarret jack, frye is kinda shaky but ok, outlaw is cool too. i think thorn would find a way to get harris.
and all of the above RUN

i like this make over
i would start boone and frye together with jack jefferson and outlaw ...
i would bring vc off the bench
wtih sw and mw simply cause vc is supossedly injured and mw needs to earn playing time and sw can split time wit frye

[Mr. Dollar Bills]

Other than the part about eating stackhouse's contract, i don't mind this deal since more draft picks equals more youth.

Stackhouse is a deal killer. Tell Cuban to EAT that ish and come correct.

[Mitch]

There's no way Thorn can get Harris too. You forget he's the only piece the Blazers are supposedly getting in this deal. Keep your feet on the ground, Jason Kidd may have commanded top dollar leaving Dallas, but he's not the same player leaving New Jersey. Thorn has zero leverage in this situation, they'll be lucky if Pritchard is dumb enough to give up the three players being named, let alone being dumb enough to not get the best player in the deal. Man, evidently the Sopranos is pretty accurate in their depictions of the Jersey locals...not too much going on upstairs in the Tri-State area these days is there? Get over the wet dream and wake up to reality, the Nets will be lucky to get rid of kid, let alone getting Harris in the deal.

[Frustrated Nets fan]

Is Rod Thorn an imbecile? He says he won't give away Kidd, but this deal does exactly that. I can understand treating Kidd like gold while he is on your team, but to treat him like gold when he plays for another team is absent-minded. Why do we owe it him to trade him to Dallas for whatever scrubs Dallas can give away and whatever bench guys Portland can live without? Is Thorn forgetting that this is a future Hall of Famer, the savior of the Franchise?

I hope this deal falls about, or never gets off the ground. Teams think they can just call up Rod and rob him of our franchise player. Embarrassing.

[John]

WHAT A TERRIBLE TRADE PROPOSAL.

Kidd for a bunch of bench players, none of which are true starters in this league, and a late 1st round pick? What a waste of time and an insult to Nets fans. I guess we're back to being laughing stock of the league. And Rod Thorn has become a joke, letting GM's come in and try to fleece him.

I'd rather hang on to Kidd for the next year and a half than trade him for a bunch of bench players that are not legit starters.

THIS IS A JOKE.

[rich]

LOLOLOLOL. I would think a stupid fan made up this trade idea, nevermind 3 GM's who are supposedly intelligent.

Yeah, let's give up the face of the franchise, who gets triple doubles in his sleep, and makes the Nets meaningful, for an AWFUL contract in Stackhouse, two bums, a semi-bust, and a couple unproven bench guys who don't deserve to start in this league except on a blown-up team like the Nets! Oh wait.... We get a late 1st rounder, too! Yippee!! I'm sure we can pick up yet another mediocre bench player with that late pick.

What the hell was Rod Thorn smoking this week?!? What happened to he isn't going to give Kidd away?

[david1978pdx]

The Blazers give up Outlaw, Jack, Frye and pick for Devin Harris? That is the funniest trade rumor involving the Blazers this year. Now, if you can take Darius Miles off our hands, then we'll talk! LMFAO!!!

[scott keegan]

This would be a great trade for Jersey...

2 number 1s
Outlaw
Frye
Jack
and cap space.

we become deeper, younger and gain cap space. That sounds good to me.

[Joe]

No cap space in this once you add in Stackhouse's awful contract.

Deeper? None of these guys are legit starters. We're giving away Kidd for stinkin bench players.

I'm gonna be sick over this. I can't believe it's come down to this.. handing Kidd away.

[wtf]

Dallas is a stupid trading partner for the Nets if we can't even get Harris out of the deal. Talk about getting fleeced!

If we wanted bench fodder, trade Wright and Nachbar and MWill. I thought Rod Thorn wasn't going to give Kidd away?

[Mark Sanchez]

Jason Kidd is a fine player on the downside of a great career. The Nets crippled their future by giving JK a contract that makes him nearly unmovable {isn't he set to make $21+ M next season?). Anyone who believes this three-way scenario is delusional. Portland worked hard to shed itself of bad contracts (LaFrentz and Miles notwithstanding) and has no interest in improving the prospects of a Western Conference rival. Especially when the payoff for the Blazers means losing Jack, Outlaw, Frye, cash AND a #1 Pick..while picking up a Dallas point guard on the injured list? Hey, why not have the Blazers wash your car, too? I can't imagine Dallas wanting Jason Kidd enough to make this deal happen. Portland has no reason to be part of this sorry joke. Face it, Nets fans: your team has almost no leverage.

[Big Nets fan]

As a huge Nets fan, I'd be really devastated to see this deal go through.

Minor point- but this would also squash our hopes of being in the running for LBJ in 2010. Having no solid veterans here with top level talent (cough Kidd cough) would turn LBJ off completely. You can't expect a team of bench players to attract any big free agents.

We barely get a glimmer of hope out of that deal. Aside from maybe Outlaw, who Portland would be foolish to get rid of, none of those players are even remotely worth losing the one person who has meant everything to the franchise. This deal is bad for Portland, stupid for Dallas, and terrible for the Nets.

[jbro]

Attention die-hard Nets fans: if this trade happens as reported, we're going back to the days of Don Casey, Rony Seikely, and Yinka Dare. It's so depressing it makes you want to puke.

[Mike]

I feel like puking. This is ridiculous.